sounds more like they are stepping UP DF/DAing rather than abolishing it
zombie dub
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Ending the Disfellowshipping Arrangement?
by sammielee24 ini was reading this on the forum for bible students where there seems to be some elder training that will focus on conscience issues and disassociaiton instead of disfellowshipping.
this makes sense from a legal standpoint because there would be no jc but interesting enough, how would someone become disassociated and then shunned?
if shunned would this then place the legality of it all back onto the family members instead of the elders?
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Tightening of the Cult Handcuffs.
by passwordprotected ini've been saying for almost a year that the wts can only go one way, and that's to be come more hardline and more cultish by tightening their grip on the r&f.. if the recent rumours seen here (and one of them was actually banded about last year) are going to pan out, then the wts is well on it's way to become more cult-ish.. changes to the disfellowshipping arrangement.
moving away from judicial action, leaning more towards the person disassociating themselves due to their actions, either of commission or ommission.
or, and i think this is less likely, they have a stand-alone study edition meeting, perhaps later on a sunday?
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zombie dub
if sunday is public only though, how many will be there? all the congs I have ever attended or visited, there are a MAX of 2-3 public there, most have 0-1.
Gonna be a bit weird, 2 people in a hall that can seat 200?
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Is Shunning an Act of Revenge?
by cameo-d in.
does wt demand an act of wickedness to prove loyalty to the institution?.
is shunning a wicked act of revenge?.
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zombie dub
if it was written in 1930, thats after 1919 when they entered the spiritual paradise? so it's all from Jehovah right reniaa?
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WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!
by yknot inso i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
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zombie dub
"Do we condemn Paul for his involvement with Rome being a roman citizen and using this to appeal to Rome the UN of his day?'
Yes, Paul was a misogynistic, pompous, bully. And him playing the whole "I'm a roman citizen" game was hardly in keeping with Jesus alleged words of "being no part of the world" and willing to die for that.
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zombie dub
make it from toilet paper?
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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zombie dub
I'd actually like an answer from reniaa/spike.
No doubt they will say something like "it isn't worth it, all you apostates want to do is tear down, I'm not indulging you"
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Was There a Fictional Work Helped You Realize the Truth About the (T)ruth?
by BabaYaga inthe pen really can be mightier than the sword, and even fiction often carries much weight and powerful messages.. did you read a book or watch a movie that made you think?
did an "entertaining" work plant a seed of doubt?.
the first one i can remember making a definate comparison to the witnesses in my mind was ray bradbury's martian chronicles.
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zombie dub
any star trek with the borg in.
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zombie dub
surely thats a fake arm/hand?
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Smoking tobacco- ex-JW's have a warped view, so what should we do?
by OnTheWayOut ini used to smoke cigarettes.
i quit as i was learning the lies of the watchtower organization.. i used to smoke between 1 and 3 packs a day depending on whether i went drinking or not.. .
i didn't really quit for the religion, but as i was learning it.. i swore to quit when cigarettes got to cost me more than a buck a pack.
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zombie dub
or the obesity - heart disease anyone?
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JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?
by OnTheWayOut ini read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?
) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.
i don't want to harp on each point.
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zombie dub
spike, unless you are playing dumb - you know as well as every other witness/ex-witness on there the WT publicly prints words like "maybe", "perhaps", "exercise discernment", but talks, counsel and judicial committees are vastly different.
For example, the WT advises unmarried couples spending long periods of time together alone is unadvisable, although it does not forbid it. How many people have been in trouble, strongly counseled or DF'ed for this though (just spending time, breaking no other rules)? Many many, I know of a lot myself.